breaking news, hurricane igor lashes bermuda. casting a spell, she's already won her state's republican primary. kristen o'donnell now admitting that she dabbled in witchcraft inigh school. what she's saying about that. an facebook feud, did mark zuckerberg dream of the facebook idea o his own or did he steal the idea from his harvard classmates. they settled for $65 million, now they'll tell us while they think they deserve more. now they'll tell us while they think they deserve more. monday, july 20, 2010. captions paid for by nbc-universal television

and good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a monday morning, i'm matt lauer. >> officials in bermuda are saying that they are still trying to assess the damage from hurricane igor. >> hurricane force winds and driving rain has led to extensive power outages. >> it looks pretty this morning. also ahead, former president jimmy cart is in the house and we'll be speaking toim about a number of topics including the rise of the tea party, those two american hikers still being detained in iran and what he seeses a his own place in history. on a different note, there are new problems for lindsay lohan. could the troubled actress be sent back to jai after she admitted that she failed a court

ordered drug test. wel have the latest on that story as well. let's given with the damage caused by hurricane igor in bermuda overnight. jim cantore joins us from elbow beach in bermuda. >> reporter: we're just getting in breaking news, no reports of major injuries or loss of live here on the island, that is grt news, however there's lots of debris and trees all over the roads all across the island this morning. some 30,000 customers are report nothing power here. the highest wind gust reported at the airport was 93 miles an hour. and the big question is, what is the word on the airport? how did it make it through this storm? what type of shape is the cause way in that leads into the airport? that's the big question this morning. there was a tremendous aunt of beach erosion here, 15 to 30

feet of beach lost as a result of one of e largest storms in the atlantic basin history. >> al roker is tracking igor as well. good morning to you. >> good morning, it's 135 miles north of bermuda. winds 75 miles an hour. down to a cegory 1 storm. moving north/northeast at 17 miles an hour. for us, the big problem is going to be the rip rrents. we have got dangerous rip currents stretching from west palm beach all the way to cape cod. yesterday in florida, they had 30 beach rescues just there alone. and it's going to be even worse "today." now the path of igor takes it way off, maybe brushing nova scotia, not a bick problem, but we're not out of the woods yet. we are watching a low presse area that could become a tropical depression and in the

next few days could become tropical storm lisa, so we'll continue t track what's going on in the atlantic. > . now to politics, with the dterm elections just six weeks away, most candidates are having to deal with the impact of the pea party. >> the president's trying to help democrats hold on to a vulnerable senate seat in pennsylvania "todatoday campaig and raisingoney there, while republicans have moreurmoil to deal with, one gop incumbent won't accept her defeat in a primary and there's more surprises about that newcomer who's certainly becoming a tempest in the tea party. >> reporter: delaware's republican senate candidate christine o'donnell is stirring the pot. >> they call us wacky, they call us wing nuts, we call us, we the people. >> reporter: hours after she was cheered at a gathering for

social conservatives in washington, d.c., an o clip of o'donnell hit tv friday, this strange comment from 1999. >> i dabbled in witchcraft, i never joined a coven, but i did. >> reporter: comedian bill maher says unless she comes on his tv show again, he will release more. >> there's a little blood there and stuff like that. >> your first date was a satanic tar? >> and a movie. >> reporter: fighting schedule conflicts, o'donnell backed out on two sunday morning shows. >> lateriday night, her campaign canceled. she canceled on us yesterday. >> reporter: instead o'donnell campaigned at a picc in delaware where she made light of the wihcraft talk. >> how many of us didn't hg out with questionable folks in high school. but, no, there's been no witchcraft since, if there was,

karl rove would be a supporter now. >> democrats worked their own magic with a new tv a hitting o'donnell with past tv problems and an old debt with a 2008 campaign. >> she'll fit right in in washington, o'donnell spends money she doesn't have. >> reporter: alaska senator lisa murkowski who lost her primary, just back in the race. she was narrowly defeated by tea party conservativeoe miller who was endorsed by sarah palin. >> we will not accept the extremist views of joe miller. >> reporter: murkowski is defying the leadership by conducting a write in campaign that will be tough to win. >> if youon't think we can fill in an oval and write in lisa murkowski, we can figure it out.

>> reporter: trying to . >> tell them that the time for action is now. >> reporter: when asked about the influence of the tea party, former president bill cnton said that the voters responding to those candidates are showing go impulses because of the feels that are out there this year, but he's not sure what their agenda would be. and christine donnell's advisers, when i asked them again about this witchcraft thing reminded m of the kind of fun lines she gave there, that if she was really practicing witchcraft, then karl rove would be one of her supporters and not one of her critics. sarah shourd is back on american soil and speaking out about her ordeal in an iranian prison. nbc's ron allen is at the united nations with more on all of this.

ron, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, ann, it is no convince dense that sarah shour is here in n york while world leaders are gattering at the u.n. including iran's president. she's on an emotional crusade pleading for the lease of her two companions. >> shane and josh do not deserve to be in prison one day longer than i was. we committed no crime. and we are not spies >> reporter: her voice sometimes wavered, but not her resolve. as sarah shourd gave theost detailed account yet of the confrontation along the iran-iraq border that led to her, her fiance and her friend to an iranian prison. >> i never in my worst nightmares thought i would be a prisoner. i never saw it coming. >> reporter: they said they never saw any sign of a border while hiking in iraq.

they got engaged in prison, their engagement ring made of string. fattal, a college friend from uc berkeley was visiting. >> if we were indeed near the iraqborder, that border was entirely unmarked and indistinguishable. >> iran accuses the two men of spying and says they must stand trial. >> most cases involve allegations of violating u.s. sanctions against iran, adding another layer of tension to an already strained retionship. bauer and fattal's motr asked to meet iran's president in new york. >> i think the humanity, not just the words, but t face-to-face meeting with him will help us explain ourselves and ourchildren. >> when sarah was definitely released, it was a very bittersweet moment for me. the cold hard truth is shane and josh are still in prison and we want them home.

>> reporter: shourd recalled the moment she lef that prison. >> and i stand before you "today" only one-third free. that was the last thing that josh said to me before i walked through the prison doors. josh and shane felt one-third free at that moment and so did i. >> reporter: she wldn't talk about conditions in the prison nor about how she was treated. there are reports she spent most of her time in solitary confinement. she was released for humanitarian rsons and health concerns including a lump in her breast. since leaving iran, she says she's been examined by doctors who tell her that in her words, she's doing well. >> ron allen in new york this morning. we are joined now by former president jimmy carter, his new book "white house diary." never before seen diary entries he kept while in the white house. i just want to ask you about the story we just had about the t

american hikers jailed in iraq. it seems like it might just be up your ally. might you get involved >> i don't think so, we don't get involved in the unite states government and the united nations. we kind of go to strange places where nobody else wants to go. i just got back from rth korea getting back aine young man from boston. he crossed the bder fromhina into north korea and they finally released him. so i hope the other two americans will be released. >> no one's reached out to you on this one. >> no, i don't think they need me. >> what strikes me as much as things change, the more they stay the sa. you talk about the political climate in this country when you were president, it's similar to what we're facing now, you had to deal with the economy and jobs and health care, and energy. fast forward, president obama

dealing with the very same things, have we just not learned very many lessons? have we just not changed enough in these years? >> there were abo 40 things that i had to deal with that were troubles in some way, and some of them were the same as what's obama dealing th. the energy crisis, we pretty well make a lot of progress there. i was able to cut down oil imports from 8.5 million barrels a day, by about 50%, but now it's gone back up to about 11 million or 12 million barrels a day. dealing with the middle east peace process, i was able to bring peace to israel and egypt. now we're trying to bring peace all these years later. >> one of the things you write about is that there was this dissatisfaction or feeling that people had for their government, there was frustration, and it seems some of the ways that that frustration has shown itself now

is the creation of the tea party movement, i don't know whether to call it movement or a political party. is it a viable party that can last into the future, or is it a passes moodhat will end when the economy gets better? >> i think it's going to be a transient thing. but it's going to be very important during the upcoming electi election. you have to remember they came in right after watergate, right after vietnam, right after the assassination of president kennedy and martin luther king. i think that the tea party is influenced, they could be merged with the republican party and i woul hope by 2012, their big influence is going to be dissated. >> one of the things president obama would put on one of his greatest accomplishments is health care reform.

now here we are six weeks before midterm election and democrats are running in races all across the country and very, very few are talking about that accomplishment of health care reform. why? >> well, i think the republicans have been successful in projecting it in a very negative way. but the main thing i see in health care reform is it brings health care insurance to about 30 million people who didn't have it before and i tried the samehing when i was in office in june of 1979, we had comprehensive health care for about 60 million people who were uninsured to cover all catastrophic health needs and we also had a proposal there that was designed to be increased so that the full gamut of health care could go into effect in four years. we didn't success with that. >> all right. >> but i think that's something we need to expand in the fure. so total insurance for everybody

in our country. >> univers health care? >> universal health care, but it's going to be phased in very slowly now. but the way it was a long confrontation has been used by the opponents to cast it in a gative light which it doesn't dew serving. >> you said this will be the last time for you to talk about your years in the white house. for someone who was born aft the jimmy carter presidency whose only experience of your presidency might be what he or she reads in this book. do you think they'll come away thinking your time in the white house was a success or a failure. >> we preserved the peace, we never nt to war, we negotiated peace between israel and it' foremost challenger, the egyptians. we emphasized human rights.

we did a lot of things that wer very important, but very controversial. i would say the most controversial one was dealing with the energy crisis. and -- the socialistic -- by the united states into like a five times greater service for the panama canal than when they changed it. so a lot of those things wer very controversial. the most important issue we had to face when i was in the white house domestically was the energy crisis. now it's come back to haunt us in a much more severe way. had all my reforms taken effect, we wouldn't be having this problem now. >> as a history lesson in the pages of this book, president carter, it's nice to have you here as always. the new book is called "white house diaries." >> let's go over to tamron hall who's at the news desk. thousands of people were

forced out of their homes during the night by wildfire near salt lake city. officials think the fire started during a nearby national guard artillery training session. several officials have now declared the bp well effectively dead, five years after the worst oil ill in u.s. history. area residents are likely to feel the impacts for years. the government says the number of people killed because of distcted drivers fell last year by about 6% fro the year before, but the department of transportation still calls distracted driving an epidemic. today president obama focuses on a town hall event. john, the economy is certainly a huge topic this election year? >> reporter: absolutely it is, tamron and i think because of the nature of our audience cnbc and the topic of this town

hall meeting, about how to fix the economy, this is an impoant moment in the market. the economy is clearly in better shape than when he took office, but it's not growing rapidly enough, 15 million people are out of work and part of the ise for the president is going to be how do you lift confidence in theconomy, part of it is not the economy but psychology. the president here with a couple of hundred people, small business owners, people out of work is going to have a chance to talk very directly and intimately to talk about his plans for changing the economy at a time when many people are losing faith in the economy. >> all right, john, should be very inresting. you can catch that town hall event with president obama "today" today at noon eastern time. and big brother, what some are calling the manning bowl, and his brother eli.

payton told his younger brother he loved m. and i saw an interview with archie manning who said he didn't set out to raise mvp qua quarterbacks, it just worked out that way. >> mr. roker, welcome back. >> let's see clear and cool around our region. good morning. right now temperatures are in the 60s from the shenandoah valley to the atlantic beaches. cooler in the mountains this morning. afternoon highs near 80. cooler in the mountains, lots of sun. tomorrow morning 40s throughout much of the region. afternoon highs upper 70s. it will be sunny again. then on wednesday, increasing clouds and warmer and there is a chance for much-needed rain

perhaps wednesday night and off and on on thursday. then it looks dry friday into the weekend. now to extraordinary wildlife event. biologists thinks the sea mice melted early leaving the animals no oer place to rest. lee cowan is in alaska. good morning. >> reporter: we're about 300 miles above the arctic circle this morning and this is where the wals are gathering, some 20,000 of them at one point over the course of the summer and scientists are saying this is a gathering that is so large and so unusual that scientists are now worried about the walrus's safety. it's the end o summer along the north slope of alask and in the tiny village of point lay, they wait for the ice to return

the tundra is usually already frozen by now. but instead, children are playing in the lagoon bare not. incently oblivious to what it all may mean. >> scientists tell us that there's global warming going on. >> reporter: do you believe them? >> yeah, i believe them. >> reporter: leo ferrera, the tribal president here isorried that the -- they worry about the most recent resident who is need the ice to survive. the pacific walrus, who normally rest on ice sheets floating out at sea. they're unable to find refuge even on a small piece of ice that melted early.

>> what this is telling us is a continuing pattern of sea ice los in the arctic, we may be looking at summers with no sea ice at all, or little to speak of in 20 or perhaps 30 years. >> reporter: a new report out this month shows it's the third lowe arctic sea level in over 30 years. walruses need that ice to rest on in between feedings, unlike the pol bear, they can't swim forer. >> they have to commute from a astal rescue spot out to the foraging grounds, than what it would cost them simply to roll off the ice into the sea directly beneath them. >> reporter: with upwards of 20,000 crammed so tightly together, easily startled mothers can often stampede, crushing newborn calves as they hurtle to the water. >> anything can spook them from a polar bear, a dog, a man, a boat going by, an airplane going over. >> reporter: bill traceys port

lay's fire chief. he says more than 100 walruses trampled each other to deh. so until the ice comes back, stct limits are now in place. >> this is about aslose as we can legally get to the walruses without disturbing them. from this point forward, the only pple allowed in are researchers. >> reporter: there's even a no fly zone over the beach, something residents here are happy to see. >> what we have "todatoday, we to protect what's there. >> reporter: a way aft life for this villag a way life for a species. >> if all the ice is gone, does that mean all the animals are gone too? >> nbc's lee cowan. ill ahead, lindsay lohan fails aourt ordered drug test. why is travel these days about what you give up

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good morning. it's 7:26 on this monday, the 20th of september, 2010. i'm joe krebs. in the news for today, students at three schools have an unexpected day off today. chesapeake middle, chesapeake high school and folger elementary school are closed because of a water mainbreak. the school system says the broken pipe has been fixed but there is not enough water to open the schools today. asses, thoug will be back in session today. we'll ta a break and come back at look at our weather

a sunny monday morning. temperatures in the 60s climbing to near 80 by mid-afternoon with a blustery norwest wind and lots of sun. sunny tomorrow, upper 70s and warmer on wednesday and thursday. might get a passing shower wednesday night and thursday. jerry, how's the traffic? >> tough time on the capital beltway. inner loop sprgfield all the way to 66, earlier accidents along the way have cleared. the outer loop a little volume but not bad. speaking of sunshine,he inner loop hard hit this morning. rockville pike most of the way to new hampshire avenue into the inneroop into the sun. >> we'll be back with 25 minut with more news, weather and traffic. catch news 4 midday at 11:00.

7:30 now on a monday morning, it's the 20th of ptember, 2010. i think summer officially wraps up tomorrow, ending on a great note here in new york city. have a sunny, clear morning on the plaza. meanwhile, inside the studio, i'm matt lauer alongside elizabeth curry. will a judge send lindsay lohan back to jail after she fails a drug screening? we have got new details coming up. also ahead this morning, the highly anticipated new movie the social network facebook and alleges that mark zuckerberg stole the idea.

we'll talk exclusively to twin brothers who say it was actually their idea. let's beginow this half hour with lindsay lohan's failed drug test. . >> reporter: "today" lindsay lohan made the anuncement on her twitter page. >> i would expect whatever i get, seriously. >> reporter: sometime soon lindsay lohan will be heading back to court to throw herself at the mercy of a judge who warned that he would not tolerate any substance abuse during her pro ba. lohan herself has now admitted that she has failed a court ordered drug test and after years of denying that she was addicted to drugs, lohan appeared to come clean saying this is certainly a set back for me but i'm taking responsibility for my actions and i'm prepared

to face the consequences. >> the judge in this case recently told lindsay, if you have a failed drug te, you will go to jail for 30 days. a hearing has to be set, so now it's just a waiting game for lindsay to find out what's going to happen. >> reporter: lohan was released from jail last mth after violating parole for her conviction in the dui accident back in 2007. as a condition of probation, she had to submit to two random drug tests a week while attending psychothera psychotherapy. i am working hard to overcome it and i'm taking positive steps. in order to gain control of her problem, experts say there are definite steps she needs to take. >> getting rid of the friends you used to have or hanging out where you used to do drugs.

>> reporter: last week lindsay lohan made a cameo. >> take it from me, they don't. >> reporter: tha remains to be seen. if she's sent back to jail, that may affect her ability to star in her upcoming movie. >> the failed drug test definitely is going to send a chill throughout hollywood. for now it puts her career at worst in opardy, and at the very least, on hold. reporter: lohan also tweeted that she is a work in progress, there is no word yet on when a new court date will be scheduled. >> we have got dr. julie holland. wh do you read, d holland from this tweet of lindsay taking responsibility and being prepared for the consequences. >> a couple of intesting things, this is the fourth te

we have talked to lindsay, and i am seeing something new, she is taking responsibility, it was always the cat ate my he work and those weren't my pant and those weren't my drugs. i'm surprised that she unrstands -- maybe she's embracing more of a harm reduction model which is the idea that it's going to take a bunch of different steps and there's going to be relapses and remissions >> what consequces does she face as she tries to turn around this very big ship? >> she actually faces very big conseqnces, both legal consequences and career and image consequences. first of all, she's got to go before the judge this week who sentenced her to jail and who has -- and who set very strict probation standards for her. now she -- this judge can actually send her back to jail for much more tha 30 days. he can decide to do whatever he wants to do, whatever he thinks is appropriate, and he can send her back to rehab and he can keep her tied up i probation

for an extended period of time which is going to make it very hard for her to restart her career. >>nd she looked so good at the mtv music awards, we actually hoped she woulde in the process of turning it all around. what prevents this young woman from getting it together. >> it's hard to get and stay sober for anybody and one of the things that gets in the way is denial, thinking you don't have a problem. but she's surrounded by people who say yes to her, offer her drugs, want to party with her. she really needs to change her lifestyle quite a bit. >> are we partf the problem, the media, focing on the problem, getting her this kind of attention we have doing. >> i do think she's fame addicted. but i don't think we can blame ourselves and i think her tweet was part of her fame addiction, she wants the world to know everything about her and she is addicted to the lifesle of

partying, even though she's saying she wants to change and she has said that before, she has said that she's gotn the message, she's changing her life. she has been out many nights at a place where she's pared before and gotten into trouble befo. she went right back there right ter being released from rehab. >> i think a lot of us would like to see her get back and doing good movies. thank you so much. we

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we're back now at 7:42 with the controversy surrounding the social network, it's hollywood's take othe creation of facebook. mara has details on this. >> when he created facebook, 26-year-old mark zuckerberg made his fair share of enemies. he's accused of stealing the idea for the website, an allege that will now play out on the big screen. >> your best friend is suing you for $600 million. >> i didn'know that, tell me more. >> reporter: the social network, hollywood's take on the web's biggest drama. >> they got 2,800 hits within two hours? >> reporter: it's about how facebook was founded in 2004 by harvard university graduate

zuckerberg. he was a computer geek who stole the idea from his friend. the alleged ed betrayal -- worn estimated $4 billion by 25. but it doesn't come without a cost. zuckerberg's former classmates, identical twins tyler and cameron winklevoss sued him in 2004. zuckerberg decided to steal their ideas and the business plan and to launch his own website. >> wait a second, isn't this the exact project that we were working on and isn't the exact person that we were working on it with. >> the twins now getting mbas in england, settled the case for

$65 million, part of it in facebo stock. now they want it vacated. >> they believe they effectively created facebo, which is worth a lot more than that. >> reporter: facebook tells nbc news we have considered the winklevoss suit closed for years and we wish them well in their future endeavors. >> they're saying we stole facebook, did we? >> reporter: still it's the latest in an onslaught of pr. the movie facebook doesn't wan you to see. la year there was a public outcry when the site changed it's privacy settings. he allegedly mocke his users for submitting personal information saying, quote, they trust me and then calling them dumb. >> mark zuckerberg is absolutely known to be aloof and arrogant

and avoids big public social situations and keeps to himself, he's pretty awkward. >> reporter: the man described as socially awkward is "today's" king of social media. facebook has 500 million users, one of every 14 users in the world. so far the bad press hasn't kept users from the site which means this social net work probably won't keep pple from this one. zuckerberg on face bock did not cooperate with the making ots movie. in a recent interview, zuckerberg says he does not plan to seet. >> cameron and tyler winklevoss are with us now. before we get to the ns and bolts of this, have you had an advanced screening of this movie? have you seen any of it? >> we have not seen it aside from the trailers that were on the inrnet. >> have you read the script? >> i have read the script.

>> did you contribute information and materials to the makingf this movie. >> no, but we actually met with the actors after the filming and the little bit that we know is that they say we'll be happy with it. >> so when zuckerberg's people say it's fiction, you say it's in fact the truth? >> it's probably closer to the truth than they would like to believe. but we won't know until we see it. >> let me try and nail you down on this settlement. the settlement was reached in 2004. $65 million, are we in the right ballpark here. >> we can't comment directly. it's publicly -- >> it's been reported. >> it's batted around publicly. so -- >> so it's close? >> we can't really talk about it. >> there's going to be people right now who say you want to en this again, you say that's not enough, w didn't understand the value of this company and there are people who say, you signed a deal. they offered you a contract,

nobody put a gun to your head back in 28 to take whatever, hoever many millions of dollars, why do these guys deserve a second viewing? >> there's actually two elements of bwhy we're challenging the agreement, and first of all the spirit of the agreement has not been upheld by their side, with respect to part of the settlement been the ek quit by. they misled us. >> you had some smart lawyers at the time, they had the rug pulled over their eyes? >> it's a situation where facebook has all the information on tir valuation and how they value their company and unless they provide that to us, which we believe they're obligated to, it's impossible to really tell what the value is other than at they represent. >> and what's the second element? you said there's two. >> the second element is that they sat on and hid elements of mark's electronic messages, and

now it's going to be six years. so the information that we should have had when we entered into a mediation, such as his conversations to his friends that showed deliberate premeditation and sandbags that we didn't have at the time. >> mark zuckerberg is not without his critics, but you guys have your critics as well. they said your site was not more than a dating service and others say much of what you proposed was already out there and that you were lucky to get the $65 millionor whatever it was. how do you respond to that. >> what we had at harvard when we approached mark zuckerberg, it was a project that was well on its way to completion. it was identical to how facebook operate s today. that argument has mainly been advanced by facebook for obvious

reasons. >> mark zuckerbe, i'll give you three terms, business whiz, genius, evil genius? which is more accurate. >> evil is a pretty strong word. >> i think a guy who was a team member and partner with us who did not want to play as a team member and took an idea and has run with it and sort of -- >> confident that you'll succeed in this latest effort? >> we're going to keep at it. we're certainly not going to back down, we'll do our best, for sure. >> tyler and cameron winklevoss, thank you for coming in. still ahead, has the traditional male become an endangered species, some say it may be time to rethink masculinity.

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how's the traff now, jerry? >> very tough challenge on the capital beltway, crawling inner loop sprangd field up to 66. earlier there were two separate accidents that were clred but we're still suffering the consequences. outer loop delays begin before route 1 in college park all the way aound to silver spring. >> jerry, thanks. we'll have more news, weather and traffic in 25 minutes. now we'll go back to the "today" show after a short break.

we're back now, 8:00 on a monday morning, it's the 20th day of september, 2010. we have got some people swaying because we're playing the song "misery" and at's o way of reminding you tt tomorrow right here on "today," an indoor concert, great music and we encourage everybody to come on down as we do every day. i'm matt lauer, along with ann curry. mr. roker returning back from two days off. >> thank you. >> did you have a good time? >> i had a fantastic time. coming up, we'll have more information on a tragic story that occurred just friy night. >> can you believe this? it was a star quarterback. he had just thrown a touchdown when he collapsed right after that. and we'll be talking live with

the young man's mother. on a much, much lighter note, some people are questioning whether the traditional role, or male role ofmasculinity, macho role is endangered? is it going to be a thing of the past? some say the economy may be playing a role in that, we're going to explore that in just a couple of minutes. >> i'm not sure i'm sad about that. are you sad about that? >> i never did have a macho side. >> i'm a lumberjack and m okay. >> all right, lots to get to, but before we go forward, we have tamron hall at the news desk. hurricane igor is heading nor north today after thrasng bermuda overnight. most of the island lost electricity during the storm. the airport was shut down and

beach erosion is severe. strong winds and rainfall continueoday, but there were no reports of any major damage. hurricane karl dumped more than nine inches of rain over the weekend. flood watches are still in effect and classes were canceled today at many corpus christi schools. at least two house were destroyed and 1,400 others evacuated because of a wildfire in salt lake city. the american hiker released from an iranian prison last week is now on american shores. she said they had no idea they had crossed into iran when they were arrested 14 months ago. she says they were not spies and did not commit any crime. a spokesman for afghanisn's president says it's too early toudge the quality of weekend parliamentary elections, despite low turnout, taliban attacks and widespread

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cool an clear on this monday morning. goodmorning. i'm meteorologist tom kierein for this september 20th. we'll have temperatures climbing out of the 60s into the upper 70s and near 80 by mid-afternoon. lots of sunshine, clear, 60s for the evening. 40s much of the region tomorrow morning. afternoon hghs upper 70 tomorrow with lots of sun. then on wednesday, increasing clouds, highs in the upper 80s. might get a passing shower wednesday night and perhaps on thursday. into the 80s again thursday and friday. then over the weekend a bit cooler. rtly cloudy saturday and

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community in disbief. tragedy hit the playing field without warning. high school quarterback reggie garrett had just tossed a 13-yard touchdown pass, he celebrated with his teammates and as they headed to the sidelines, reggie collapsed. he never regained consciousness. >>he crowd, our kids, our coaching staff, our community, i think the other team as well, everybody was pretty much in shock. >> rgie was rushed to the hospital, his teammates were told in the last minute of the game, he passed away. friends and family werin shock. >> i loved him, everywhere he went, i was there too. >> coachesay reggie had a seizure when he s threyears old. the result of a very high fever. something doctors tellhe family is not uncommon. paramedics at the scene say they believe reggie had a massive seizure he could not overcome.

in much of the country, including texas, screening policies for student athletes differ region to region. in this case, coaches say reggie had a check up with his own doctor in july and it swed no abnormalities. in oregon last weekend, a similar tragic story on the football field. but this one with a happier ending. haywa hayward -- one of the stars of the catholic high's ftball teams. he ran the ball 45 yards, scoring a key touchdown. >> it was the game winner >> reporter: but moments after the play, he colpsed on the field. his heart stopped for about two minutes, cardiac nurse leisa liber rushed from the stands and started administers cpr. >> it didn't look like he s breathing, and a couple of

people tried to feel for a pums and we didn't feel one. >> liber saved his li. he was later diagnosed with a defective cerebral artery. >> iant to get back into football. >> reporter: like so many americans, hayward loves football. but the coincidence of these two events has many asking ifhere are enough precautions for high school athletes. for "today," kerry sanders, nbc news. >> reggie garrett's mother, joanne parkinson and his football coach are both joining us this g. >> joanne, it's onlyeen since last friday that you lost reggie and i'm wondering wha you want to say this morning about what happened to your boy? >> really -- i really don't know

what to say or what happened but i was here at the football game and was en route to the restroom when i was flagged by his cousin brandon ricard saying tha it's reggie, i could read his lips en route to the restroom and the first thing i could do was just get to the field to see. and when i got to the field, he was already out. >> such a beautiful and talented young man. and besides this one seizure when he was 3 years old as a result of this very high fever, was there any other indication of any kind of physical issue that might have put his life in jeopardy, joanne? >> no. no. had a physical last year in port arthur with his doctor here in orange, no signs of any health conditi whatsoever. >> coach, what do you want to

say about that? do you see any indication in reggie of any signs of illness at all? >> he was top in physical condition, he never showed any signs of a health problem, it was just out of the blue. it shocked everybody. >> was there anything that happened on this friday night that happened on other friday nights, coach? >> he was smiling and ran off the field and i was trying to get the special teams out there and i looked around and he was having problems on the sideline. >> joanne, he was celebrated just before he passed. >> yes. >> does that give you -- >> just so proud of him. just so proud of him of what he accomplished. >> he's the kind of kid that you couldn't say anything bad about and that's rare because he was super.

>> thank you so much, and our deepest condolences, i'm sure many people watching. let's bring in dr. nancy snyderman. >> no indication from either the coh or the mother. can this fever at 3 years old the seizure because of high fever at 3 years old be an indicar. probably not. this seizure could have followed any little virus, getting a baby shot, and sometimes when babies have high fevers they get seizures and they're not indicative of anything down the line. the real question will be with the autopsy, to look at the heart, whether there might have been a blood clot or a heart attack. sometimes you can have a seizure

and there'sothing -- or you can have the electrical conduction, the heart sends out a long message and so there's nothing to be seen. so sometimes an autopsy still leaves linger questions and doesn't answer as many questions as people would like. >> is there any test, is there any way for parents to know ahead of time or is it true that the kind of test that we have available "todatoday of a youngt or a young brain is just not adequate? >> big cases like this will cost people, they'll say i want kids screened for anything. the problem is screening a heart at rest with an ekg, isn't the same thing as screening a body at exertion so i don't believe that massive screening other than being honest aboutour family history, being honest about illicit drug use, being honest about any symptoms you might have had, you think oh, my gosh, maybe the coa won't let me on the team, if you have been

feeling feint, if your heart has been beating funny, those are the things you needo talk about. otherwise the routine check in the summer should be enough to find out which kids play and which kids n't. this is tragic, but they're not necessarily related issues. >> we'll be right back after these messages. ♪ ♪ come on, people, now ♪ smile on your brother ♪ everybo get together ♪ try to love one another right now ♪ [ female announcer ] the time has come to get a diaper thateally works, withouthe really high prices the time has come for luvs. say yes to ultra leak protection, no to pricey diapers. it's time for luvs with the luvs money back guarantee. ♪

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should be bummed out as a guy or is it much adieu about nothing. >> the story is n about men becoming more like women, guys can still be guys, they can dreslike guys, they can do what guys do, b there are changes forces in the economy and at home and they need to expand their definition of masculity. >> so we can no longer have simplistic views about what a man's job is and men's role is. men have to expand their horizons and be a little bit more open minded. >> the economy is going to add 15 million new jobs over the next ten years, it may not seem like it right now. >> where are they come ing. they're field that tradionally employ a lot of women. home health aid, customer service representative. >> so you're asking people to at least consider a new definition for the word macho. >> we want to define masculinity

in terms of usefulness. men can dre however they want and act however they want. but what they do with their hours, how to contribute to the home and how to contribute at work. the home is a natural place to start this shift. and we make recommendations in the piece, one great example is paternity leave for men. >> getting out there and taking paternity leave? >> one of the paradoxes we discovered in researching this piece is although most american homeare dual income, women continue t do four times the child care, even when mom and. >> i think that now we're looking at the fruits i think of the '60s when the women's liberation movement was we want equal everything. it looked like equal money and we have gotten equal money in many instances, this is showing that maybe it's on the ride. but the-quality i think was

desired that . a guy who's willing to apt and do anything he can to support and contribute to his family. that's macho. >> what's more masculine, a guy who is unemployed and a deadbeat dad who's still strong and silent or a guy who's doing everything he can to be a good da >> who would come to mind? who's the new macho guy? >> part of the problem is tre aren't good examples ithe u.s. >> david cameron is in new macho. he just took off two weeks to bond with his newborn daughter.

>> he co-parents, he co-bread wins with angelina, with a nanny's help. >> it's when you don't have a nanny and you really have to pitch in, then what happens? we want to see the definition of manly, let's hope that men embrace it. >> thank you to all of you, we're back after your local news.

good morning. our time right now is 8:26. 68 degrees. beautiful sunshine here in the nation's capital. od morning to you. i'm joe krebs. in theews for today, a law student and green party candidate for the u.s. senate in maryland remains in critical condition after a hit-and-run accident. natasha pedigrew was riding her bike with 5:30 yesterday morning when she was run over by a woman in a cadillac escalade. she suffered head trauma, broken ribs and lost a kidney. the driver, who has not been charged, claims she did not know sh hit anyone until she got home and found the bicycle stuck under her suv. maryland state police seized the bike d the cadillac. they say alcohol was not a factor. we'll take a break and come back and look at our weather forecast and check out the rush hour too. s

good morning. here's your four-day forecast. sunny and mild today and tomorrow. warmer wednesday and thursday. jerry, how's the traffic. >> we are loaded up at each of the an costa bridges but no accidents. the road work in place southbound 95 as y head from newington and it is jammed. >> we'll have more news, weather and traffic in 25 minutes.

it's 8:30 now on a monday morning, it's the 20th day of september 2010. it's a magnificent day here in the northeast. although there's some wind in the air, moving around pretty good. 51 degrees. might feel a little colder than that. >> i think we ne a group hug. >> matt ler is filling in for meredith, al roker is here and tamron hall. >> let me know when to stop. >> we're going to talk to the author of a book that's being

hailed as the first inside look at the workings of the obama administtion. it's written by a guy who used to be president obama's car czar. we're going to find out much more about and talk to the author in just a couple of weeks. and a sure sign that fall is arriving, which by the way comes on september 21 at 11:0 a.m. and one of our chefs is goi to be here, he's going to be sharing a savory recipe for baked apples. >> he always makes food fun. >> watch your fingers there. also coming up, we're going to meet jason leonard. he's an incredibly talented actor. he's going to be in this new show on nbc called the event. so he's very excited. we'll talk to him coming up.

another big debut on nbc tonight. it's "chase." starring kelly mcginnis. >> thank you very much, niceo see all of you all. >> every promo i see, you're kirking someone's butt. you've got someone in a head lock, you're taking someone down. >> i'm so proud, i wear my badges of honor. it's great getting up in the morning knowing you're going to be on the roof of a semigoing 60-mile-per-hour and the cameraman is in a helicopter. what other things can you do? >> your job is a u.s. marshall? >> yes, these are such gooden and women, catching the bad guys so all of us can lay our heads on the pillow at night. >> if only i had a little more stimulating.

>> now you're from geora, and it's usually pretty darn hot. >> it's so nice not to be on the sound stage in new york or in l.a. and to be able to run and we showed theet and it's just a big texas sky. >> aim parable to texas. i'm from there. >> are you? >> how surreal is this for you? >> all those production values right there.

it is a blue sky monday morning. good morning, i'm meteorologist tom kierein. a live view from our sky watcher camera, hi pressure over the region bringing more dry weather. cool temperatures now, in the 60s, climbing into the upper 70s to near 80 by mid-afternoon. ots of sunshine. clear tonight, 60s through the evening. 40s tomorrow morning throughout much of the region. afternoon highs upper 70s and sunny tomorrow.

increasing clouds wednesday. upper 80s during the afternoon. might get a shower wednesday night and thursday. up. >> warm is what we need. >> don't forget, check your weather any time of the day or night, oweather.com online. in case you didn't know. coming up, we'll be talking abouthe first inside look a the obama administration. but first, this is "today" on nbc.

back at 8:37, it was one of the most rigorous restructures in history. in the new book "overhaul" an insidersccount -- out of

breath here, of the obama administration's emergency rescue othe auto industry. stephen, good morning, i apologize, i was running. >> running is good for you. >> running innd out. why did you write this book? because i thought this was an enormous accomplishment by the obama administration. a singular accomplishment for which there was a beginning, a middlend almost an end and i thought the country deserved to understand. >> you're a guy who does not need the money, you do not need the attention, you don't need trouble and you know tha you have talked about se of the things in this book that are going to capture some headlines and as a smart guy, you knew those would capture attention. did you think about it? >> i thought people would take a look at the book in its entirety. it was not some effort to telltales or talk out of school. >> but youo include some anecdotes of some interactions that you had with some key members of the administration.

rahm emanuel denies some of the things tha you say he said in the book, but one thing in particular you talk about buy it was important to bail out gm is that there were thousands of union jobs. and you say heaid blank the s. when you were surprised that this would make headlines, that's the title of that chapter. you don't use the word black, but the title of that chapter wasuas. >> what rahm was really saying is that there was not going to be any political cows. >> and i have heard you describe this after the controversy, you said that's not the context that i describe in the book. however when you call a chapter, blank the uauas.

>> what do you think was the greatest lesson learned from this entire chapter in our history of diving in and saving these companies? and first of all, is it a finished story? do we know the full result even though we think these companies are back on track. >> there's two questions actually, we don't know the finished result, we think the companies are back on track. general motors has had t quarters of positive income. both companies are ahead of plan. but the broader lesson to take away from this is that i'm as recalcitrant as anybody about big government in the private sector. this is a capitalist country, it should be run that way, but markets fail to perform and in 2009 the markets failed to perform. >> you worked closely with larry

sumner and tim any geithner, those whore trying to figure out how to run this economy. we were talking about what happens within a presidency and oftentimes it's not the expected that defines a presidency, it's the unexpected. things like the bp oil spill and the economy and the job loss that nobody saw coming. does president oma in your opinion have the two right people in those positions to lead us out of this? >> i believe that 100%. i have known larry summersor 15 years, i have known tim geithner almost as long, these are battle hardened, experienced guys. i could not imagine the president taking these tasks on without those two guys and those jobs. in the booyou allude to your own problems. a guy named hank morris who's been indicted for accepting million doar payments to do business with new york state pension funds, you say, quote, nothing in my entire

professional life have been as painful as that episode. you left your job as the car czar after six months. did youeave because the job was done or because of pressure within the administration over an investigation surrounding you. >> the job was effectively done, we had turned these over to the private sect, we said they're your companies, you guys go run it. between that and my workload dropping off and it would have been hard under those circumstances to take another high profile job within the administration, it seemed like the right time to take a break. >> and the status surrounding you right now is what as you understand it? >> unresolved. >> and for the foreseeable future? >> i hope so, but i cannot predict. >> the book is called "overhaul" it comes out "today."

back now at 8:45, with a mysterious global conspiracy. the event, a new series premiers toght on nbc. and let's just say everything isn't always as it seems. >> it's not too late, but we haveo act now. >> open the door! >> i'm an air marshal, i'm not going to ask twice, do it now! >> jason, good morning. >> that's what it looks like, but you have to watch the whole episode. >> your character's name is shaun walker. >> when you say you have got to

watch the whole episode, y don't even know -- do you know what the event is? >> i don't know what the actual event is. the writers know what it is, and some of the actors foe what it is. but we were all given these little character dossiers that show what our characters know and we weren't allowed to share them with the other actors. >> what's it like to not know what the other characters know? >> the writer had been creating this story for the last four years. i knew that he had the entire back story in his mind. so as long as i know that someone has the plan, i'm going to follow along. >> but you know that you're the star, at least for the first episode. >> yes, exactly. >> and so as you're going in this role then, as it's unfolding for you, is that frustrating?

is it exciting? how does that affectour work? >> it's really exciting. i mean, you know, i think generally, we go through life not knowing at's around the next corner and certainly it's a lot of fun in a show like this, where there's a conspiracy and you don't kw who to trust. but it's nice to do a scene with an actor and not know if he's going to be a bad guy in a scene down the road. >> in all reports, you are fantastic, because we obviously are going to be seeing? premier coming up. a lot of us love your dad. >> oh, thank you. >> and i'm wondering if your dad had a big influence on your decision to become a actor. >> yeah, i mean both my parents did, they both were actors and, you know, just being around it andeeing how much fun they had and also knowing how muchork goes into it, it seems like something that i wanted to try my hand at. >> well, john ritter, i'm he

would be very proud of you. you have been working on this show since may, you haven't seen it all come together, i'm guessing. >> i haven't seen it all. >> but there's a big premier tonight, are you butterflies? how are you going toee this thing. >> tonight all the cast is going to the show and we're all going to watch it and keep our fingers crossed. >> get some popcorn or something. >> how do you know when things are good or bad? what do you wait for? do you go to sleep? wh happens. >> you go to sleep and then wait, i guess tomorrow morning i'll wait for somebody to tell me good or bad news. >> already we have been hearing the "new york times" calls it nbc's highest new card, the most valuable. because of the reactions so far at least with international research audiences. the stuff that those networks do. it's very exciting. >> that is very exciting.

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? this morning on "today's" kitchen, bakedpples. he's the chef of minibar in washington, d.c. and by the way will be teaching part of the science and cooking class at harvard university this fall. professor, good morning, nice to see you. >> no professor. >> that's impressive. good to see you. we're goingo do some apple dishes here, when you're eating an apple versus cooking an apple. do you like a different variety? >> the ones that my votersove. do they all cook wellr some better than others? >> when they are very sour and they're hard, they're going to be very firm, even if you cook

them for a long time. when they're sweeter, they have more sugar, the apples they are going to break. so you're the one that chooses which one you want. >> we're cooking stuffed baked apples. you start wh bread, right. >> here we are all bread crumbs. you don't want to throw them in the garbage, you mix them with some milk. you put it right here with the meat. >> so this is just ground beef. >> ground beef, ground chicken, use your favorite ground meet. and some pork. weut some parsley, we put some onions, we put some garlic, some cinnamon, some salt. you make thathole thing very well. and then you sta coring the apples. >> you don't core it all the way through, because you don't want it t come apart at the bottom,

right? >> you know your recipe. so you make like, you know, you can do this with a holer, you make the hole in the top, eyou use the baller, you make a big hole. >> and you don'teel these and zblls don't peel it? buy because if you pedon't peel it, it prevents the apple from becoming dry. >> don't you also put a little lemon on the outside of them? is that so they don't brown? >> what happens is i'm so quick, that they don't even have time to brown. but the recipe also will tell you -- >> you have a different recipe here? >> put some less than mon on so they don't become brown. >> pop them in the oven. >> for how long? for as long as you think the apples are ready. 30, 40 minutes, 350 degrees.

>> you want the meat to be brown, you want the apple to be kind of ft. >> the meet is going to be perfect. >> it's kind of like a meat loaf in an apple. >> how do you garnish this. >>ou put some fresh thyme. >> spinach, i put this right before we began, and now they ar beautiful and brown. you see this one? >> you smell the smell. >> you cannot see the ell. the smell is good. you're going to be able to see it. you see this is smelling good. you're smelling this delicious swee flavor. >> you put some pineapple. you put some raisins, you do all the work.

>> they don't understand. >> we love your english. >> here you have the beautif spinach. >> tell us quickly, what's that dish on the end? >> some apples, sliced, a great olive oil from spain. blue cheese, you put some almonds on top and you have an unbelievable apple salad. >> professor jose andres. 8:56 is our time right now. 68 degrees here in the nation

capital. beautiful, bright sunshine for a september day. good morning to you. i'm joe krs. students at three schools can enjoy an unexpected day off today. chesapeake middle school, chesapeake high school and the folger mick kenzy elementary school are closed because of a water main break. the broken pipe has been fixed but there is not enough water to open the schools today. classes will be in session tomorrow. we'll take a break right now and come back and look at our weather forecast and check out the rush hour too. stay with us. hey, ove, i'm gonna need a bank. any ideas? capital one bank. they're everywhere. ♪ yeah, you're right! [ horns honking ] hey, there's one right up the street.

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>> pretty tough in a couple of spots. there was an accident on the beltway, inner loop at ritchie marlborough road, it's crling. road work set up and it is just a mess. 95 southbound, you can see the construction zones as you head south from lorton all the way down. >> thanks very much. we'll have more news, weather and traffic in 25 minutes. for now we'll head back to the

we're back now on a monday morning, september 20, 2010. thank you for stopping by and spending part of it with us. it's always nice to have imrtant and distinguished people in our area as well. we just had a once over the barricade, to be with some of our fans out there. >> some of these families are worried about their nnl.

>> let's get a check of the news from msnbc's tamron hall. hey, tamron. >> good morning, matt. hi winds and pounding waves. jim cantore is there. >> reporter: this is still breaking this morning. the best news we can give everybody is there's been no reports of major injury or death. they're very happy and they're very much priding themselves in that. power is down from 30,000 to 28,700 as there's been considerable damage to the power system grid out here. fist responders are clearing out.

we're doing pretty good, the sun's coming back out. >> flood watches are in effect today in corpus risti, texas. more rain is expected throughout the day. freed american sarah shourd is back in the u.s. calling her arrest in iran 14 months ago a huge misunderstanding and saying she's no spy, with two other americans still held in iran, she says she feels only one-third free. the american government says that 5,400 people were killed in

traffic accidents blamed on distracted driving. officialsay the problem is still an epidemic. a crash of a freight train in ctral india killed four people and injured several others. federal officials have now declared the bp well in the gulf of mexico effectily dead, five months after the worst oil spill in u.s. history. president obama calls the permanent sealing of the well an importt milestone, but area residents are likely to feel the impact for years. and movie goers went to town over the weekend, a new ben affleck film taking in more than $23 million according to early estimates. "easy a" was second and "devil" the third. back to matt and ann. >> go ben affleck. >> let's get a check of the weather, mr. roker standing by.

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on this monday morning captured live by >> and that's your latest weather. we're joined now by the one and only shila buff who'star of the movie "wall street". >> we're excited for you. >> were you even born when wall street came out? >> i was just a year old maybe, 1986, it came out? >> was it an important part of your research to study that movie and dissect it? >> i watched it on oliver.

and he's big on updates. i watched it many times before i came in. >> the director is oliver stone and he's an interesting director in that he gets inside your head. but as an actor, with him in charge, it's interesting. >> he's orsonells and the easter bunny. >> why do you say that? >> he knows what he wants and he demands a lot, but he's got a soft touch. he doesn't berate you, but he expects a lot. >> there's a lot happening in the economy between the time the first one came out and this. >> you know, the greed is still there, even now, after having made it, they're bundling life insurance policies grim reaper styl it did get worse, less sex, drugs and rock 'n roll on the

streets. >> i think all the characters have a little bit of good in them and then a good streak of evil in them as well. >> it's a bunch of sharks trying to eat each other alive. but if there is a good guy in this movie, it's jake. >> you know, i was their conduit to michael douglas. i was the introduction to superman. you rub my backnd help me get some coin. so i have really good bargaining chips.

>> i read one review in the paper, five stars. pretty good stuff. you're a real talent. >> and wall street money never sleeps, opens this friday. >> friday. >> let's go inside, tamron, take it away. lindsay lohan is back in the headlines after failing a court ordered drug test last week a violation of a probation that puts her back in court to face a judge. more now from amy robach. >> reporter: i respectfully -- lohan seemed to come clean, tweeting to her fans, this was certainly a set back for me, but i am taking responsibility for my actions.

and i'm prepared to face the consequences. >> and the consequences could mean more jail time for the troubled actress. >> if you have a failed drug test, you will go to jail for 30 days. a hearing has to be set. so now, it's just a waiting game to find out what's going to happen. >> lohan was released last month after violating her parole. as a condition of her probation, she had to submit to two random drug tests while attending psychotherapy sessions and participating in an outpatient substance program. she tweeted substance abuse is a disease that unfortunately doesn't go away overnight. i'm working hard to overcome it. experts say there are definite steps she needs to take. >> getting rid of the friendships, the places you hang out or the things you used to do

for fun because they're all tied to that drug life. >> do you think anyone can work with a drunk? take it from me, the don't. >> reporter: if she goes back to jail, that may affect her ability to star as linda lovelass. >> this failed drug test is definitely going to send a chill throughout hollywood, for now puts her career at worst in jeopardy and at the very least on hold. >> that was amy robach reporting. bonnie fuller is from hollywood life.com. bonnie, good morning. it's hard to talk about lindsay's career when you know that her healtnd her well-being is in jeopardy. but let me ask you,s this a huge set back for her in a town that seems to give so many chances to somebody who messed up? >> just when people were beginning to think tt maybe this time she was finally

turning a page and she understood that she had a problem, she has now given a major incation that she's not ready to get back to work, to resume her career and to get serious about tackling her drug problem. >> it's intesting, she sent signals that she was getting ready to get back started on the right foot. she was on mtv, some thought a little too soon to be joking about rehab. what signals did she send that she was on the right track? >> the thing is she didn't send the right signals, she sends all the wrong signals. she immediately went out and began to party again, she immediately went back to the scene of her many earlier antics that involve drugs and alcohol. and just on a friday night even, even after she knew she failed the drug test she went out partying again with friends to a well known restaurant. >> some of the experts say what she needs to do is clean house, getting rid o people around her who are enabling her. maybe even take a break from her family.

to talk with spun who's neutral who can help her out. >> she hasn'tiven that indication, she seems to be hanging out with the same crowd, going to the same haunts, doing the same things and suspending her mother, not her father, but her mother, who seems to be very much in denial about the situation and has n been supportive of her getting the help she needs. she needs to go back to rehab. a serious extended stay at rehab where she truly canurn her life around. >> bonnie fuller, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. up next, avoiding some common money mistakes. and later, competition between you and your spouse. but first, these messages.

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buying when prices arep and selling when they're lois the opposite you want to do. >> basically you want to look at what your individual goals are. >> exactly, look at your portfolio, set up aumatic investing. you can consider target date mutual funds. they reset automatically as you approach your retirement date, so if you tend to be somebody that follows the herd, that might b good for you because your money is somhere else and somebody else is taking care of it. >> what about asset allocation? >> a lot of people put all their money bonds because they're losing all this money. you want to have some sort of inflatio protection and stocks tend to do that over time. >> then you s continue to own and buy stocks? >> you want to continue to buy stocks, and if you've got bonds in your portfolio, a lot of people went to long-term bonds, and that can be a problem depending on what inflation does.

>> big mistakes people make are unexpecting -- expecting unrealistic returns. >> a lot of people when they hear of past performance over e years, they have earned 9%, 10% a year. in sometimes it can go just the opposite direction. and sometimes, in some periods, you can earn a lot less, a lot of people say over the next decade, it will be like 4% t 6%. >> kind of a coral larry to that is overpaying for past performance. >> this is for the following the herd people. they want to invest in a mutual fund where someone's done well. everybody's already gotten there and you might be paying high management fees for past performance so you want to do as we said before, set your portfolio up the way it should be and that's the way -- wh index funds, very low cost funds. >> and one of the things you also say, bad timing can be a big mistake when you've got your

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the time is 9:26. good monday morning. we have sunny skies over washington, going to be a gorgeous day. we'll have the complete forecast in a moment. good morning, i' pat lawson muse. police are still trying to determine who killed an armed suspect during a shootout with police. it happened around 6:00 yesterday morning in the200 block of market street. police approached a man with a rifle following a domestic dispute they exchanged gunfire and the man died. they are still trying to figure out whether the officer killed the suspect or whether the suspect turned his gun on himself. a look at weather an traffic coming up next.

good morning. now with the sunshine we are warming to nea 70. afternoon highs near 80 with lots of sun and a bit of a blustery northwest wind. tomorrow mostly sunny, chilly in the morning in the 40s. afternoon highs upper 70s. then warmeron wednesday and thursday, feeling like summertime again for a couple of days. maybe some rain too. jerry, how's the traffic. still load up along 270 fromgermantown all the way on down to the capital beltway. just a little bit of volume. no cidents. if you're headed for downtown, 395 very slow to the 14th street bridge, but no additional travel lanes open. still have three at the bridge, four once you get midspan pat. >> thanks, jerry. more news, weather and traffic coming up in 25 minutes. right now let's go back for more of "today."

♪ >> that's the band performing their song wakeup call and it's a reminder to you to tune in tomorrow morning. they'll be performing live to celebrate the release of their new album, hands a over. >> i love them. i really do. >> which one is your favorite? >> adam. meantime coming up in this half hour, who knew that taking out the garbage could lead to a happier marriage. who knew? i think everybody knew that. >> we're talking about the chore wars, from doing laundry and prepping meals to taking out the garbage, sometimes one partner

feels like they're taking on a larger role and so we're going to tell you why it's important to pitch in to keep the peace. >> and a little bit later on, my book club for kids is in session. we're reviewing ninth ward, about a 1year-old girl and her fiercely loving caretaker who had visions of an upcoming storm which turns out to be hurricane katrina. also ahead in "today's" kitchen, a party and healthy one dish dinner. turkey and meatballs. we'll see how that works out. but al, first,

good morning. around the metro area now near 70 as well as near the bay. elsewhere still in the 60s. we should climb into the 70s to near 80 later today. cooler in the mountains wit lots of sunshine. then tomorrow morning quite chilly. most locations in the 40s. afternoon highs in the upper 70s and enty of sunshine. then on wednesday, increasing clouds, warmer weather on a southerly breeze into the upper 80s and then wednesday night into thursday we might get a passing shower. after that it looks le dry weather returns with cooler weather friday into the weekend. >> and that's yo latest weather. >> thank you very much. up next, why the opposite sex has opposite ideas when it comes to household chores right after this. well, kids need to eat well.

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spouse every month. >> so how do you end this battle of the sexes. robbie ludwick has some advice. this is a universal problem, a lot of couples can relate to this and the svey was very telling. >> clr did a survey, and they were the first to look at this problem, how are men and women different when it comes to this problem, who cleans more and how do women really feel about it? 69% of women feel that they did all ofhe hou work or most of it and 53% of the men said no, i disagree, i really feel like i pull my weight. >> was that surprising? >> no, because i think men are doing a lot more than they ever did before, so to them, taking out the garbage and maybe pickg up after the kids feels like they are doing half the work, but women are working outside the home, so there is this kind of ide shift that's going on.

>> and these little fights can seem trivial, but they can actually be damaging to a marriage? >> they can. because what the study also showed that women who felt that they were overburdened and taking on most of the responsibility really were angry with their husbands and not feeling as good about their marriages. t on the up side, women who felt that their husbands were helping and that things were fair and square really felt good about their rationship and this is something that comes up on a regular basis, one out of five couples on a monthly basis argue about it. it reality. >> so one of the things you should do is assign appropriate assignments. >> right. so what you want to do is don go against the grain. if your hband likes doing the laundry, let him do the laundry, if you like cleaning the dishes, separate it along the lines where people are actually good -- >> consider complements. >> were? you should all be complementing. nagging didn't work, if your

partner really lets say one day cleans up the table, say thank you, that rlly meant a lot to me. success builds on success. and that really helps people do more of what you want them to do. >> is overwhelming to clean house en nobody wants to do it. do it in five minute intervals it's amazing what can get done in five-minute intervals. >> and you get the kids involved? >> i did this this summer. if you make it a family activity, you can burn calories, it's something everybody does together and then y reward yourself after the fact with movies or a ce dinner out. but get everyone involved. everybody's messing up so everybody should clean up. >> i'm saying to my mom, we should get a dishwasher, she said i've got six of them already. and one of the things you say, just do it. yore not going to like cleaning all the time.

clr also studied that cleaning the toil is the least popular thing to do. >> rely? >> big surprise there. but sometimes you just have to do it. a clean home has a better chance of being a happier home so you have to do things in life you don't want to do all the time, so just make yours do it. >> and it sounds like you should also come up with a plan for these thin so that everyone knows up front what they're doing. >> don't surprise me with an assignment. >> don't do i did this, you do that. we have a personality quiz that you can get on clr chore wars.com, it's also on the todayshow.com size. so you can find out what is your cleaning personality and find way to make that work in your house. mine is a can do. i took the quiz, i'm a can do. are you a honey do or are you are a canada? >> i'm avoiding you as a possibility. i'miding in the closet.

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sees a great storm coming, which turns out to be hurricane katrina. it would destroy her home and ravage new orleans. lanisha is forced to use her inner strength tourvive the storm against all odds. this is the last meaning of this particular group of our book club kids, so we want to say hello one more time to ava thornton, sabrina fernandez and spencer carl otto. good morning to everybody. >> before we get to our book club kids, i want to ask you, you're an award winning adult book writer and author. and you decided to write a book for kids on hurricane katrina. why? >> i have wanted to write a book for children since i was in the third grade. and hurricane katrina worried me so much, i felt devastated for the children.

so i wanted to write about a character that showed how strong and ho wondeul they were. so lanisha really takes tragedy and turns it into a triumph. >> first of all, let's talk to eva. what's your qution. >> , well, there's a certain supernatural element to the story that i like and i wanted to know what made y want to include this trait in the characters of molly yaya and lanisha? >> i wanted to create a sense that there was mysteries and wonders in the world and things you couldn't see, and that was to eourage lanisha to call on her inner wisdom and instincts. >> all right, miles i know you're kind of leaning forward. >> jewel, now in the book you particularly talked about mama yaya, did you have the same

relationship with your grandmother as lanisha didith mama yaya because i know i have a very special relationship with my grandmother. >> my grandmother was the prototype for mama yaya and if it had. been for my grandmother, i wouldn't have become a writer. >> that's a great influence. >> claire williams from loudens borrow, alabama. claire, you have been rding along with the group, what is your question? >> my question is, i was just wondering, do you have any personal ties to new orleans, the setting of your book? >> no, i don't. i think it's kind of magical that i'm drawn to new orleans, i have been since i was a child an i think i must have lived there in another life. >> wow. >> kind of a little more supernatural. >> oh, yeah. >> thanks so much for your question, claire. now we have got sabrina

fernand fernandez. what's your question? >> hello, jewel, m question is, it was a terrible disaster for hurricane katrina, so it took a lot of lives, of so manyeople and so many different communities so and in new orleans, how and why did you change the ninth ward? >> ninth ward was the area that was most devastated. that was the area where the levees firstroke and right now you'll go visit the ninth ward and it's still just slowly rebuilding, so i wt to the worsplace to write about. but i wanted to go to a community where people loved each other so much and i wanted to show what was lost. >> andast but not least, spencer, what is your question? >> at the end of the book, something was holding lanish in the water, what was it?

>> i like to think that it was a tree that was holding her dow and almost drowning her. that's when her mother the ghost comes and talks with her and everything is already. and lanis hrklanisha bursts up once again the strong child. >> one to five stars, five being the highest, ninth ward gets four stars. >> thank you. >> jewel parker wrote it. thank you so much, and thanks to you guys, you're a terrific grou we really loved having you guys. if you have a child that would want to join us who lives in the tri-state area, go to our website for more information. let's go to the next book, it's a whole other story by dr. comfort soup. and next "today's" kitchen with pamela anderson. t first, this is "today" on nbc. that pamela anderson.

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this morning on "today's" kitchen, hot chef pam anderson has expressed frustration about coordinating an entire meal, she was inspired to create a cookbook filled with simple recipes. the result, her one dish dinners. good morning. i'm sure you did it a lot. >> i do. >> what are you making "today"? and i'm stunned that it's one dish. >> it is. because you think, okay, we need -- this is essentially spaghetti and meatballs, you need one pan skillet for t meatballs, and a pan for the pasta. these are meatballs that are lean and delicious and we're adding toasted garlic, i like using toastal garlic because it gives it the real garlic flavor without the bitterness.

we're going to add other flavorful things which you're going to mix in here, cracker crumbs and also fettuccine cheese. these are actually called meat drums. >> you mix all this together? >> and the reason i call them meat drums and meat mallets because it's tough to brown a meat ball. if you just form it in a tropicdrum shape,ou've got two sides to totally brown. >> you can took everything in one batch. you don't he to do any batch cooking. and you're not rolling the beat malls around, you're just flipping them over to brown them out. >> exactly. >> and the double surface means you're not cooking -- we have got some delicious garlic here. we're going to add some flavor.

because this sauce is not going to cook for hours and hours. it's only going to cook in about 10 or 15 minutes. we have got our sauce, we're going to add our meatballs back in. the double surface means the sauce is going to cook more quickly in this roasting pan. so we have got this in here, now we're going to add pasta. >>nd this is different, because normally you would boil your pasta? >> exactly. this should simmer for about 10 or 15 minutes. >> does this allow the flavor to soak in even more? >> it does. so now we're going to add the pasta and six cups of water. now because the cooking time is so short, ds it allow all the flavor to get into that sauce? >> it does, because we have added the garlicnd the red wine which really bumps up the flavor. >> and we have got the finished product nearby? >> and this rsting pan also doubles as your serving dish. you don't even have to -- >> so this is meant for the -- i

am a real cook a these are my solutions. >> you add a little fettuccine. and that's it. >> tell me about the kooky. >> this is a show about weight. >> perfect timing. >> the age and all the numbers nobody wants to admit to. >> it's the cookies. >> i love to make cookies, but i don't have time to make four dozen, just make one big one. an then you just take it to the tabland cuit off. >> i'm doing it. >> we're about to reveal some very, very distressing numbers on our show. weight and age on these buttons. >> our real weight and our real age. >> real weight and real age. >> al are you going to do it?

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good morning. it's 9:55 in the nation's capital on this monday. sunshine and blue skies and a bit of a breeze out there today. tom will tell us what the day

holds when we check in with him in just a moment. in the news first, students at three anne arundel county schools can enjoy an unexpected day off. chesapeake middle school, esapeake high school and folger mckinsey elementary are closed because of a broken water main break. the pipe has been fixed but there isn't enoughwater to open school today. classes will be back in session tomorrow. tom, september weather doesn't get any better than this. >> just gorgeous. we need rain. not much in the foreseeable future. maybe wednesday night into thursday and all the way between now and through the weekend that's the only chance. right now we'reear 70. it ought to make it near 80 by mid-afternoon. lots of sunshine, bit of a blustery northwest wind. chilly in the morni in the 40s, afternoon highs in the upper 70s with lots of sun and then feeling like summertime on wednesday, the last day of astronomical summer. we have the equinox arriving wednesday evening. maybe the chance of a shower wednesday night and thuday.

how's the traffic, jer >> 270 southbound, late accident just reported near route 28. delays reaching back to gaithersburg. one more stop, we'll see how we're doing on the beltway of virginia. the inner loop still jammed from springfield around the bend toward 66, although it looks a lile bit better. pat. >> thank you, jerry. a reminder, yocan get all

from nbc new, this is a special numbers education, live from studio 1 a in rockefeller plaza. >> i just want to say -- >> that's why we call it fundy, ptember 20th. >> she gets 36-24-36 -- >> if only that wer true. >> i get 46. >> well, i'm about to make it up to you, because, yes, we're bowing to tell you special numbers today. it's a special edition of the "today" show. we went without makeup a few months ago, just to be -- i don't know why did that. i sorrye did that. but today we are going to reveal as most of you know our ages. we are what we are.

>> the idea is, you are -- >> you can e about it and you know who you are, but the truth is, i am 57 and a month already. >> 'you just turned 26 early in august. >> later -- how do you feel wearing the button? it's one thing to say it out loud. it goes away and some people missed it. what do you think about wearing it, continuing -- >> i'm so over this kind of stuff. i'm just grateful to be alive. and healthy. >> i do think, though, it's funny, i put this on facebook and twitter last night to let people know we were going to do it. ost people said i have no problem revealing my age. but are sensitive revealing their weight. >> we just asked joy behar, she wears like 2 bounds -- >> i will, if you don't put on the thing that says wt you

weigh. >> we're aking guests to wear buttons that say their weight or age or both. it's interesting, some people are uomfortle. i get it, who would want to blab it on national tv. it lives forever in cyberspace. >> the other thing, too, this is established in time. you are your age, but your weight is something that fluctuates. here's my frustration, okay. i was 104 when i got married. that was 24 years ago next month, right? we were out in the hamptons for our friend wedding ov the weekend. a of tse memories come back you to. i realize i've gained more than one pound every year since i got marry. i weigh more than i was when i was nine months pregnant with cody. >> no you don't. >> yes, i do. >> you weighed 10 i remember distinctly being in sixth grade. everyone was in their 80s and

90s -- >> do we have a picture of that? >> no! >> i distinctly remember when they weigh you for t presidential thing, i was 101. when you're offer 100 in sixth grade, that's when there's trouble. everyone go, you're 100? >> nobody cares about your height. you're over 100. that's big. so i think of you being 104. i remember 100 from sixth grade. at's it. i don't remember ever seeing it. a lot of it is bone structure. and my mother used to say as she got old, you know as we get older, we lose so etch weight in our face. >> i said mother let's forget about the fae. okay? you got to take care of both, if you know what i'm saying. >> i was my heaviest -- again, we are going to reveal our weight -- just not right now. we want you to hang in with us. >> we promise that we will.

i remember weighing, i think it was my second job, maybe, i think i weighed close to or more than about 180 -- 170. you're 5'9" hoda. >> it's a little bloat -- >> but that was -- and at the time, i didn't realize -- i guess, i don't know, maybe i wasn't as self-conscious. >> you are in the best shape of your life. we've been talking about this. here's what i've done. it's almost one year. after you turn 50, nhing is the same. last year, i gave up all threbr. all sweets you never see me eat sweets, and then about four months ago. i gave up dairy, and my beloved wine, i drink spitzers now. what the heck is left? and yet i gained 4 pounds since -- >> yeah. >> you know what is funny been b th

aboutthat? -- >> nothing. >> notng is funny aboutthat. you can eat a bunch of crackers or eat almost nothing, or eat a little. and the next day you gined weight? i'm watching and thinking, how is that possible? today i ate almost nothing, i stood on the scale and i gained weight. >> i don't know abt you, you are 46. after 50, it's all about hormones and you can't control them very much. >> we want to do a little math. >> it is just a number. when frank turned 80. he wasn't want to hear about this. when i look like frank when i'm 80, he looks unbelievable. i figured if i had frank at 80, i could trade him in for two 40-year-olds, right? >> that's sweet. >> then i thought, why uld i want to do that, when i canlso trade him for four 20-year-olds. >> yes, really? >> beyond that it gets gross and probably illegal. i thought that would be an interesting thing to think about. >> let's see what we are up to. do you want to do me first? >> yeah. >> what does 46 look like in.

>> what does 46 look like? >> here they come. >> come on in, everybody, this is what 46 looks like. >> oh, look how cute. two 21-year-olds and a 4. >> you're an adult twice over, hoda. >> with a 4 yearly. >> what's her name? >> this is lilly. >> hi, lilly. it's nice to see it like that. >> little more depressing. >> shall i do me? >> adds up to 57? >> oh, no! >> hello, there. what is your name? >> look at them. i'm not taking them home. >> look what y could have? >> you know wha say hello to frank. >> he can kick your butt. >> we'll make frank an honorary

chip 'n dale. >> are you a live chipchippende? >> absolutely. >> what is your busize? that's where all of my weight is now. and it seems that you have the same problem, right? >> a little bit maybe sometimes. >> yeah, you guys work out how many hours a day >> actually not that long. >you guys, thank you. thank you really so much. >> thanks for having us. we deaf lit a appreciate it >> you know what, this isn't such a bad day atall. >> no. so far, 36-24-36 and 46. twokids, two 21 yearlies. >> everybody feels sorry for me. i'm the oldest person at the "today" ow except for willard scott and we'll both be on smukers, you know what i'm saying? >> we'll reveal our weight because we're not scared. we have ourbutton and a

marker, we wanted to weigh ourselves in the morning so we have the right weight, we didn't want to give it to them friday, because it may have fluctuated. i went to my friend lauren's wedding, she has been together for 24 years, and they have a baby girl. we see more and more of those weddings. >> if you were going to buy one pair of workout pan, these are pricey, you put them in the washer, they lok like new, they are $98, they -- they last forever. >> and they fit just -- they fit the body in a great way. >> they fit you -- >> your rear end -- >> no. anyway, it's 98 bucks at lulu lemon.com. >> i've heard so many things about different sweeteners th scare you. there are a lot of chemicals in that sort of thing. i also switched to trivia. almost no grocery score, no

calories at all. yet much, much healthier for you. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> but i really pretty much -- i've given up everything in life about about you, hoda. there's nothing left for me. what joy is there in life, except for friendships? i have dear friends vis iing from hland, michigan. >> you know my dear, dear friend. ovethere with all of her friends. they wouldn't get on th scale, by the way. >> they refused to do their age and weight. maybe by the end of the show we'll get them to admit it. >> are wgoing to sarah? >> hi, guys. >> first of all i love lulu lemon pants my brother calls them my uniform. this is the complexion concealer mary uses. it looks great. it's on me every day. it's about $8 at your drug store or whatever. >> you're probably wearing 33, huh? >> yes, so are my shoe, 33. >> i think i got someone else's

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i hatemy weight. but i do it for myself, because i want to eat. >> 193. that's less than 200. whoo! >> an she did it with her shoes off. >> you know what, we're back with our special numbers show, while you may feel there's many numbers to define you, the ones that seem to bother the women most are their ages and weight. whichis why most women lie about it on their drivers licenses. how can they dothat? >> you can't. plus size super model. we adore. contributing nutritionist. other own joy bauer is with us. >> this is my mother's age. >> my mother us to say i'm an 18-year-old woman trapped in a 53 yearly mom's body. do you feel that way well? >> yes. >> we are going to say. why do you have your age on? why do you choose -- i don't have to do anything. >> i'm definitely in my 40s but

my mom, god rest her soul, said you never talk about your age. it's just one of those things. it's not a big deal. the whole show is about i'm not a number. >> not defined by it. >> this is what you said, you feel like you' so much younger. >> you feel like insight. >> mostly, i feel like i'm 100 mtly. >> really in the verb life, i feel like i'm in my 20s. >> yeah. >> we're talking about age and weight. one thing we talk about a lot is how frustrating it is. older you get, how difficult it is to take off even a single pound. i mean, it drives us in sane. >> as we get older, i'd like to say that the numbers matter a little bit less. i think that we feel more secure in our bodies, and it's less about the scale and it's more about how we look and about how we feel. do you think? >> i hve a little problem with that, because a lot of women

don't want to get on the scale when they come to see me. and they say it doesn't matter. and it sneaks away from you. you know, a lot of time, i have someone who has been my patient for 20 years. they gain a pound or two aware of it, they are not aware of it. suddenly they're 20 pounds heavier. >> that's the problem. if someone comes in, they are 30 pounds up. they're well, i'm working out. truth is, they are kidding themselves. they are increasing their risk for diabetes,eart disease or certain cancers. uterine ganser is the number one cancer and the numbers are going straight up and the risk factor is obesity. >> do you find a lot of women go into your office completely unaware of what an eating disorder might be. playg with their food. not eating enough or eating too much. there's not too many female doctors that are knowledgeable about these issues. >> we had this discussion all of the time.

what i learned over the year, i had to be specific. not enough to say, are you eating healthy? what did you have for breakfast? i'm not eating breakfast because i'm on a diet. >> everybody enjoys fit club, joy. one thing women say, they skip breakfast, that are overweight. >> you know what happen, that's a bad cycle. you don't eat breakfast in the morning to save calorie, then you're starving by the afternoon and you eat all into the evening and you wake up. you feel bloated and heavy -- >> the bagel, high protein -- >> i'm thenly one, problem a little over 50. did you have that trouble when you hit 50 that nothing was the same? >> absolutely. the biggest thing that i t, women come in and say, i'm gaining weight because i'm menopausal. and this whole idea that when your estrogen go down, weight

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you stopped getting in the sun how many years ago? >> about 20 years. >> were you reluctant to put the butt on in. >> i felt good, my birthday is in two weeks i'll be 57. timing is -- >> that's ver liberating. tell us about this. >> anyway, we'll talk about hidden fat. everybody knows about fat, you have globs of it pg hainghangin in food. i was told i'll start with you. we know olive oil is heart healthy. how does it stack up gram to gram with a artery clogging fat like lard. we have a tablespon of each. does this olive oi have more, the same or fewer grams of fat percent tablespoon? >> i'll say th me. >> you're correct. it's the same. 12 grams of fat. but it's going to be healthy fat. but you still have to watch the amount. good or bad, they're still the same. stay away from lard that's

artery clogging. >> kathy this is for you. a little more on vegetableoils. they are heart healthy. meaning they won't clog your arteries. one of them is artery clogging and saturated. is it the safflower oil, coconut oil, corn oil, soybean oil or- >> coconut. >> that's a hard one. >> because i love coconut. it's always sothing i love. you're going to do well today. >> hoda, this is for you. we know peanut butter is a heart-healthy fat. peanuts are good for u. but portions are hard to determine. okay. this is just a snack. four sal four sal teens of peanut butter is that 20%, 30% or 50% --

>> i'll go for 50%. >> you're right. >> that's sick. >> each cracker has a tablespoon. 8 grams of fat. >> deli or honey on it. >> uh-oh, cheesecake. this is good. kathy, look at this. who doesn't love a rich dessert. cheesecake, gives you a hint. low carb cheesecake or sugar free. how does that stack up wi the fat? this is six ounces of cheesecake. does it have more or less than 35 grams of fat in this serving? >> it's low carb. >> more? >> more. >> it has more. >> just think what you say, then go with the opposite. >> even though it's low carb, it still has a t. >> this is 46 grams of fat. if it's two thirds concern. >> you only have 30 seconds. >> look at my so of the sushi. sushi is good.

does it have 10 or 20 grabs? >> 20. there's monnaise here. >> we have to starttqy'ñ reveal our weight. madilyn. >> we'll reveal part of it. here is -- okay. this is the first of the beginning. ready? >> first digit. we're coming bac with the other two digits. >> it's scary. running there? dancing there? flying there? how about eating soup to get there? delicious campbell's soups fill you with good nutrition, energy, farm-grown ingredients, and n help you keep a healthy weight. helping you get to a happier place. have a nice trip. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.

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♪ i don't want what i never had ♪ ♪ i want what i had before ♪ god knows i'm not asking for more ♪ all right. i am. >> i am. >> isn't tha a nice little tune? >> that's from the musical "hats." a long called "i don't want." a woman turned 50. >> that was our own kathie lee gifford ng issing "i dot want." a songshe wrote for "hats." >> didn't i just say that? can we move it along here? >> we started off earlier revealing -- now we'll reveal the second digit -- no, the third. not the second. so don't get all -- >> yes, we do bring it, bring it. okay.

there's a blank in between. okay, ready? flip it, flip it. we don't have all day. what is yours? >> liar. >> no, it's not. you know it's a little more than that. so we'll reveal the middle digit -- >> thank you. >> okay. >> thank you very much. how much do you weigh in how old are you? >> 53. >> uh-huh, right. i don't think so. >> okay. now we got that over. it's time to talk about, yes, age. we took to the streets to find out how people react when they're asked to fess up to their age. >> how old am i? >> what's nt, weight? >> what do you think in. >> you don't tell that. >> 75. >> it's over 40. >> i know it's surprising. >> come on. >> i have to tell the truth?

>> 52. >> okay. 59. >> i'm 36. >> how old am i? >> 60. no lie. >> 27. i forgot. >> well, i'd rather be 60 with a 45-year-old body. >> i would never tell you my age, ever. it's m secret. >> like emmy, some people choose. it's their own business and they certainly have a right. now we're joined by a panel of women each represent a different decade from 20 to 60. we have michelle moore. she's a mere 25. i don't know why she's here and 34-year-old ann sachs. >> next is susan shapiro. she's 56 and she's the author of "you're grounded forever but first let's go shopping." last but not least mary jane

foster age 60. welcome, brave women. >> now, was it -- were you intimidated when we asked you to wear the button? raise your hand when you thought, i really don't want to do that. >> i think you cringe when you think of your age. that's the problem. i came on, because i think we're bold to do this. the right thing to do. >> there's still the stigma, isn't there? as far as everything, as far as we' come, there still isn't -- there's still this stigma. do you think so? >> absolutely. i felt fine about my age. everybody knows i'm 60. until i got to thinking about what other people might have limited my opportunities, going forward? so everybody is, so, i had no idea you were 60. >> that's why emmy chose not -- she said i make my living as a model. i don't want my age to be an image -- a problem. >> i changed careers so many

time, and i may agai i don't want someone to say you can't do that, you're too old. >> when you're 25 like michelle. it's funny, i remember 25as moment momentus. i remember thinking i felt i was getting older at that time. how does 25 fit on you? >> i am aware of 25. i am embarring on my second half of 20s, going 30. >> you're a quarter of a century old. do you know that? >> so old. >> but i'm aware. i know i'm young, but i'm aware of every year that i get older. >> and, are you thinking about 40 when you're 34. is that going through you or no? >> definitely. i'm about to move to the other side. >> karel if, sweetheart. the other side? dark side. >> i'm going to be clos to 40 than i am 30. >> do you feel like you've achieved what you want to achieve at the age of 34?

>> i think i'd b really sad if i achieved what i wanted to achieve at 34. i would have to go home and sit on the so fa. no, there's moreo achieve. >> stephanie, at 43, i know you'll tell the truth. so -- >> actually, on th side -- these or the other side. it's the other side of young is actually an amazing place to be in my experience and experience of women whowrite on my blog. i'm thrilled to be here. i feel it's a privilege to get older. >> i feel more confident. happier, more signature, i feel i have more power than i had when i looked sort of objectively closer to hot. it's a different kind of hot that women from this side on. no that you're not hod. get to be. >> menopausal hot. >> its i confidence is what you

when you're on this sde of the room. >> if you're through divorce, or with children with addictions, wheryou feel you're failed as a parent. you feel you have your shot, and i blew it. >> i think you have to be a model for your children. you're building a career and have interesting. my daughters told me i needed to be photo shopped bcause they're in it. for my book photo. they are 23 and 30 years old. >> i did. they are not photo shopped in the picture, just me. >> now you look like sisters. that's so nice. >> we have a lot of people across the street who want to ask you questions about age and weight too and all of that stuff. >> all of that is coming up. we'll continue our conversation and maybe give you that last digit. don't know, i'm still thinking about it. >> first here what these ladies have to say about -- >> i hate my age.

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♪ we' back with our fantastic panel of women. chelle moore. mary jane foster. ranging in ages from 25 to 60. >> we'll make them proud of it. first let's go to our own sarah

haines, who has a crowd of women ready to ask your panel. it's a bold group. buttons everywhere. went to kathy from chicago. she has a question of women keeping up or upkeep. >> why is it that the expectations of women are higher than men, when we age. you know, it's less maintenance for men with color, skin cream, facial -- >> every way. >> everything. >> who wants to take that. >> yeah, go on. >> yes. >> i think it's what the culture yields. culture asks us, and insists that we lie about our age, that we try to look younger, that we get botox facelifts. women field they should do it. men never feel they have to. >> i would suggest to you, that we should all simply not respond to that. >> it moves the bar. >> you go ahead. you're on your own. >> i have quite over here.

does this make me distinguished? >> i got white all over here. >> i don't know what that is. it moves the bar. i used to be letting yourself go, men needing a hair cut. if you don't do anything proactive to look younger, look like you're in your 20s, you are letting yourself go. that makes it hard for everybody. >> do you feel that way? any of that pressure at 25? >> no. let's go back across the street to sarah. >> hi, i'm here with julie. she got a lot of queion for weight loss results. >> i lost 40 pounds. since january. i'm feeling great. feel the scale is slowed down. i'm losing inches or pant sizes. i can't get the scale to keep moving, can i get health? >> she is 39. not yet in that zone we're talking about. >> i would say, eat when you're hungry and stop when you're

full, and keep exercising, and you'll be the weight you're meant to be. it will be what your body wants and following your body and emotions is what makes you happy at any age, any size. >> plus she dropped 40 bounds >> go ahead, sarah. >> i'm here jean from columbus. >> it's hard to keep up with the ends as we age. how do i stay fashionable as i'm getting older. >> she's wearing it well. it's not about fashion, but being classic, classic at this point >> no, that's not for you anymore. >> eventually, you develop a style. it's what is right for me. and what i know is right for me is not cute. clean, classic. >> you don't want to a

doorab adorable anymore. >> have you changed from your teens in. >> sure the older you get you know what works for you. it doesn't have to do with age. every woman you know what you feel good in. if you're dying to try out a trend, try it out on a smaller scale. count have to dress in head to toe in leopard print -- try it out with somebody you trust. say do i look ridiculous? >> right. >> you got mary from tennessee, got a question about healthy living. >> i was wondering what the most importantwe think about women to increase our longevity and quality of life. one most important thing. >> what do you think? get on your fanny and exercise. at any age. keep moving, try to eat more healthy than n. >> and applause for people across the street who wore the able button. >> yes, yes. thank you, sarah. >> we're about to do our reveal.

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we're back with a special additi of "today." talking about numbers that define us or not. for the last hour, we're talking about courage to tell you what we weigh. >> do it together. >> rember, we had two digits. >> remember, we write in the middle. >> you bet. >> that's life. >> ready? one, two,three, do it! okay. what are you? >> 146. >> and you're 46 years old?

>> i'm 146 and i'm 46 years old. >> i thought when i got on the scale this morning i was jiggling. and it just stayed. >> you had a pizza last night. i hadn't weighed myself in a year. i weighed last week, and was -- a pound or two more than i -- i was 130 last week. >> mind was the same whether you jiggled or not. i moved to another room and it was the same. >> okay. hope this makes you feel better about yourself at home? >> i don't care. >> all right. all right. now we're going for the jugular, talk about the numbers in your bank account, the paycheck, take a listen. >> i think this is very personal, private thing. even though i feel proud of where i'm at. >> i shouldn't be jnled on my salary. because that has nothing to do with who i am.

and it doesn't define me. i don't make any money. i'm a housewife. i just spend money. >>nd she -- it's hard to make no money. >> and fran harris is a life coach who helps people find what's really important in their lives. hey, fran. nice to see you. >> money and things like that. obviously, it gives you confidence, i think in a way, that you feel safe. you feel you're in a good place. >> y really do, you ask people about the money they make, talk about i want to be able to put my kids through college. >> feed them healthy food. >> i want to feel what it fools like not to play my mortgage. >> thething to remember, it's just one of your numbers. >> probably thought the world treat the people differently. remember the movie wall street, the new one. when he gets o of prison, he is the very same people that used to be, hey, gordon -- >> you hit on it.

>> percesona non grada. . we know how theountry treats people that are poor. >> you have a list that makes up internal number. money is not the list? >> no. it's ur health. you have different numbers on the cholesterol. i have a similar experience. that number is very important, internal numbers have to be important. if iake a million dollar, but my satisfaction, fulfillment is low, i don't feel so good. >> i have friends w are extrely wealthy people who get sick and have no amount of money that can buy them a cure. money will not help yo ultimately we have a lot of wealthy people who are unhealthy. >> this past summer i coached the girls 13 a under basketball team. took the entire summer off. i didn't pay for any of that. i felt great about what i was giving, making a deposit into the world.

>> i feel very screwed up about the culture. the way we defined success i think worked. >> you are smart. >> we le your hair. >> do you have a book out? because you should. >> thank you. tha you. >> how much do you weigh, fran? >> anyway, we'll be back with more today -- >> we need more. check the tag. made in france. wow.

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don't think sarah has revealed her weight,as she in. >> way i supposed to? >> 146 here. >> 143. and you're ke 100 inches taller than me. >> how tall are you? >> 100 inch, that's what i said. 5'3". >> i don't have secrets at this point. >> tomorrow the new member of the joy fit club pays us a

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